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16Nov

Debbie and Red Ferrell Wonder, How Much Pasteurization Does Texas Need for Goat Cheese?

bigstockphoto_Goat_Cheese_1510404.jpgOn two acres in Rosanky, Texas, just outside of Austin, Debbie and Red Ferrell milk 30 goats to produce their fresh Maid in the Shade cheese. They’ve been at it for two-and-a-half years, and the $300 to $500 they bring in each week is an essential supplement to Red’s $1,600 monthly disability, to support themselves and their two young children. 

 

But the couple has been out of business for the last two weeks, since two inspectors from the Texas Manufactured Food Division of the state’s Department of State Health Services showed up at an Austin farmer’s market and, after much argument with the Ferrells, confiscated $300 worth of the couple’s cheese.

 

The problem? Debbie says she was told an inspector determined she wasn’t heating her milk hot enough to be certain it was pasteurized.

 

Red objected to the inspectors taking the cheese for testing without having proper coolers to preserve it over a hot weekend; he didn’t want their tests to show spoilage that wasn’t his doing. So the inspectors took the cheese and destroyed it.

 

Two weeks before the seizure, an inspector came by their farmhouse to look over Debbie’s kitchen, where she produces the cheese. She thinks the inspector wrote down that she heats the milk in her double boiler to 140 degrees for half an hour, rather than the 145 degrees that is required, and that she conforms to. “I think he wrote down 140 degrees when I told him I often keep it at 150 degrees for thirty minutes,” she told me.

 

I spoke with a couple of officials of the Texas Manufactured Food Division, but they wouldn’t discuss the Ferrell’s situation, saying the matter was still “under investigation.”

 

To get back in business, Debbie and Red now need to purchase approved pasteurizing equipment, which they say runs $14,000 to $20,000, although they are investigating a contraption that may run “only” $4,000, and still pass muster.

 

Whatever the final price, it will be a huge burden—perhaps an impossible burden—for an operation that brings in $20,000 to $25,000 annually. In other words, Debbie and Red may be pushed out of business.

 

And they say they aren’t alone. They say they know of about 40 or so other small cheesemakers like themselves around Texas who use double boilers, water baths, and other such ordinary utensils to pasteurize their milk. (One of the officials of the Texas Manufactured Food Division tells me the agency inspects 15 small cheese makers.)

“They’ve all gone to ground” since her farm’s shutdown, says Debbie. “It’s going to put a lot of us small producers out of business.”

 

Cheesemaking has grown dramatically in the last 25 years. The American Cheese Society’s annual cheese competition in Vermont had more than 1,200 entries this year, versus 665 in 2004, according to an article in the November-December print issue of The American magazine (not available online).

 

So there are a lot of people like the Ferrells around the country, scratching out a living by making fresh cheese from milk they pasteurize themselves, and then selling the produce at farmers markets. On the side of the regulators, people do get sick from bad cheese, but that tends to be cheese made from raw milk and brought into the U.S. from Mexico. No one was able to cite recent cases of illness in Texas. Seems like the Ferrells are paying quite a high price for a questionable amount of public "protection."

Reader Comments (16)

I am getting angrier and angrier by the blog! It is so clearly nothing to do with public safety - if it did, Totino's would have all their pizza confiscated and destroyed. Or Dole their packaged spinach. Or Tyson their ground beef. Pardon my French, but WTF??? Where are the checks and balances to keep the FDA and its state-level agencies from continuing this abuse of power???
November 17, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMaggie
Hi David Thanks for all the good articles. I often try to forward them to the Raw Dairy Yahoo discussion group but the forward has not gone thru any suggestion as to why? Don
November 17, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDon
Hmmm... Let me get this straight. Does Texas allow double boiler type pasteurization for cheese? Were the Ferrells a licensed cheese kitchen? If not, doesn't Texas require cheese makers to be licensed? Is one violation for a licensed facility enough for Texas to require a commercial pasteurizer? Why not just better temperature recording. For those still in business, for about $300, you might look into a submersible temperature logger that you plug into your computer and download the temps recorded during milk pasteurization. I put a description of one up on my website:
http://www.thefutureisorganic.net/submersible-temp-logger.htm
Ageing raw milk cheeses longer than 60 days is a recognized alternative pasteurization method, although it does not work for some cheese types.
November 17, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChrysalis
In response to Chrysalis, the Ferrells were a licensed cheese kitchen. Not certain about Texas' regulations about double boiler pasteurization, but I do know this was their second inspection in 2 1/2 years, and first one hadn't brought that up as an issue.
November 17, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Gumpert
I am so sad for them. This is so infuriating and I feel so powerless to stop any of it. Where are we going?
November 17, 2007 | Unregistered Commentermaria
I checked into it a couple of years ago, and most, if not all USDA positions are appointed ones, not elected ones. I brought this up at Farm Bureau council in our state, and it was discussed briefly. It led to further discussion about whether members felt the general public was educated enough on matters to elect agricultural officials. Then the discussion died out.

Maybe I'll bring it up again this year.
November 18, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterelderberryjam
Currently Texas does not have a "cheese kitchen" license. They were most likely carrying a standard manufactured food license. Texas is kind of messed up this way....cheese does not fall under dairy regulation, so it is hard to find information that shows clearly that a cheese maker must have a dairy department approved pasteurizer.

It is my understanding that the regulations have been drafted and are under consideration to change this. It will make it easier for small producers to ensure compliance - as it is VERY hard to find out what is considered legal right now. But it will also make it far more expensive...as pointed out in this article.
Writers need to get the facts first. The Ferrells are NOT respected by farmstead cheesmakers in Texas...In Texas, you must keep a recorded log of pasteurization temps for batches, both milk and headspace thermometers. You must also have a license from Manufactured Foods to sell cheese legally. We all want a hero--but these people give Texas a bad name and hurt other small cheesemakers. If they continue to stand on their soapbox, instead of producing a safe, healthy product for their customers, farmstead cheesemaking will be legislated out of existence in Texas. I will go out of business with them, and so will my friends.
He did have the facts. The fact is, Texas is trying to implement rules that will make it financially impossible for some producers to become what the state considers to be compliant.
And it is "Ferrell". Who have we made ill? Illness has never been reported to us, or anywhere else to our knowledge.
As far as horrendous? And visitors? We only sell at farmer's markets, not at the farm, but have certainly never discouraged anyone from visiting if they wanted to. And as far as pasteurization, we have always pasteurized our milk, and make NO RAW CHEESES! And have kept records on all batches made. However, since we were never told, nor able to find the information through diligent research, along with others who also didn't know about the headspace temperature requirement, we didn't keep records on headspace, just the milk temperature, and also kept up with batch numbers.
We are also licensed. I don't know where the impression came from that we are unlicensed, but that is not true at all.
I am sorry that you feel we give Texas Cheese a bad name, but feel we have always produced a quality, safe product, based on the number of customers that choose our cheese over others week after week after week.
By the way, brave enough to make statements like those above, but not brave enough to share your e-mail address? Maybe someone needs to check you out.
November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDeb
In reguards to the post made by "A Texas Farmstead Goat Cheesemaker" I just have to ask the following questions: Are you in competition with the Ferrels at the Farmers Markets? Do you know FOR A FACT that their cheese has made people ill? Do you know for a FACT that they are unlicensed? I for one, would like to see the FACTS to back up your statements. If you have the FACTS, then please post them, with names, so we can follow this up.
November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPaint Pony
As a person interested in making goat cheese I want to hear all the good and the bad.. What I wonder is do these inspectors closing and fineing people have any interest in the cheese making business. If the inspectors can site the law it should be writen somewhere for people to obtain and be aware. After all that would be an easy way to get rid of the competition. Take a look at the FDA. The testing is not independant and special groups get through and whisle blowers are terminated...I'll all for clean and safe. But as the other writer stated the big companies are not treated in such a manor. What's really going on? Someone is not telling the whole story, People need to start banning togeting to get regulations that are known. and lastly. Get rid of the skunk in the barn. Investige the investigator.
November 20, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDM
First, let me be very clear. I am not in competition. I market in a completely different area of Texas, and NOT at Farmer's Markets. The group of commercial cheesemakers is very small, and we mostly know each other...The regulations are quite clear to anyone who calls the Milk and Dairy Division in Austin and speaks with their local representative. My inspector is wonderful and was referred to me by the Grade A Raw Milk For Retail Dairy Inspector for my area. That individual explained everything very clearly (it was exactly what was outlined in the Grade "A" Pasteurized Milk Ordinance available from the US Dept of Health). I just Google searched online and asked for a bound copy...The regulations are quite clear. Abide by them, and there is no problem. I just don't want our rights taken away by further legeslation, just because someone wants to do something the "cheep and easy" way. If you pay for a product, you expect quality and that is only enforcable by regulation. Thanks to a few people who want to cut corners. If every cheesemaker was clean, sanitary, and did their job to the very best of their ability, then we would not need government intrusion into the business at all.
Again "A Texas Farmstead Goat Cheesemaker" where can I see the FACTS reguarding this issue? Post a website for us to visit so we can see the FACTS. We don't need hearsay, we need facts that are in black and white for us to read. If you are just going on hearsay, Have you seen, with your own eyes, their palce or are you going on hearsay? I'd be a little afaid of something called defamation of character.
November 24, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPaint Pony
I have reluctantly taken the step of editing out several comments from A Texas Farmstead Goat Cheesemaker that I decided were potentially defamatory. This individual should at a minimum be willing to provide his/her real name and email address, as well as provide tangible evidence, before making such serious charges.
David Gumpert
November 25, 2007 | Registered CommenterThe Complete Patient
I'll be honest. I'VE been trying to get a copy of the Grade A regulations for TWO YEARS!!! No matter how many times I write, email, call they WILL NOT MAIL ME A COPY! I've been told by Profs at Praire View that the regulator for my area hates work so he does everything he can to talk people out of getting certified. It's WONDERFUL if "A Texas Farmstead Goat Cheesemaker" has had a great and easy experience getting certified. Maybe they don't realize it's not that way for everyone.
February 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJoy Alba
A response for A Farmstead Goat Cheesemaker,
I know this is old news however the Ferrells are VERY RESPECTED in Texas as Cheesemakers contrary to your post.
May 19, 2009 | Registered CommenterJulie Hammond
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