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Thursday
Jun122008

Here's a Prediction: Organic Pastures Will Still Be Around When the AP Is a Footnote in History

printnewspaper.jpgMy first job in journalism was with the Chicago Daily News, a proud bastion of American journalism. I got hired while I was still in college as a copy boy. My job was to sit at the front of the vast newsroom with two or three other copy boys. Each time a reporter or editor yelled “Boy!”, one of us would jump up and scoot over to to grab freshly written or edited copy and deliver it around the building to the next editor or typesetting station for processing. (It didn’t matter that one of my co-workers was a girl, she responded to “Boy!”)

When I worked the four-to-midnight shift, my job sometimes included running over to the grungy Billy Goat Tavern (today it would be considered “funky”) down under Michigan Avenue, and picking up some whiskey for a columnist on deadline.

My favorite part of the job, though, was standing outside the press room, and watching through the clear glass the huge printing presses, which stretched for what seemed like a city block, humming and turning the rolls of newsprint into the next day’s “news.” I loved the smell of newsprint and ink, the mammoth size of the presses, the whole aura. Most of all, I think I loved the idea of being there on the inside as the day’s “news” was being packaged for shipment out to the community at large.

When the Chicago Daily News went out of business in 1978. I was very sad, just as I was for a number of years afterwards as other metropolitan papers failed or struggled. But as the trend has accelerated in recent years, I’ve come to realize that these behemoths of the establishment probably deserve to fail.

I know everyone blames the Internet, but the Chicago Daily News went out of business for the same reason the Associated Press will eventually fold of its own weight, and eventually most of the nation’s metropolitan papers will bite the dust: they lost contact, if they ever had it in the first place, with their readers, whom we might refer to today as “the end users.” I bring up the Associated Press because it just published a major article about raw milk, and the best I can say for the article is that it is pathetic.

It says the U.S. Food and Drug Administration considers Mark McAfee, owner of Organic Pastures, to be “a snake oil salesman,” without citing a source. It says parents of five children sued Organic Pastures, when in fact, two sued.

There’s also disagreement about the interview process. Mark says the reporter hasn’t been in touch since at least mid-April, and then it wasn’t clear the reporter was working on a story about the grand jury investigation. The reporter, Paul Elias, told me he had “three distinct interviews” with Mark, having spoken with him most recently a week-and-a-half ago.

I would guess that the real situation is somewhere in between, but what’s key here is that Mark seems not to have been kept in the loop about what was happening, and what was happening was extremely important. When the Associated Press does a major story about you, it’s still a huge event (despite the old media's decline), because that story could be picked up by any of more than 1,700 newspapers and 5,000 television and radio outlets that are members of the AP. It’s much bigger than a single paper doing a story, so the reporters owe it to a subject like Mark to be upfront about what they’re doing.

The bottom line, though, is that the article represents the government’s viewpoint much more than the consumer viewpoint or Organic Pastures' viewpoint in that its main purpose is to scare people about raw milk. It comes at the story from the viewpoint that if the government is investigating you, it must be because you did something wrong, not because possibly the government is conducting a vendetta against you. Fortunately, increasing numbers of people understand that they can’t believe much of what government mouthpieces like the Associated Press publish, which accounts for the fact that Mark’s business increases each time such a smear comes out, and Associated Press’ business drops.

In that vein, it’s worth pointing out that since the Chicago Daily News folded in 1978, the Bill Goat Tavern has grown from a single bar to a city-wide enterprise with seven locations, and one in Washington, DC. My guess is that in thirty years, we'll be able to say the same thing about the AP and Organic Pastures--AP will have folded and OPDC will be thriving. Yes, whisky and raw milk will outdo slanted government propaganda every time. Maybe Bill Marler and I can drink to that sometime.

***

As Bill Marler points out following my previous posting, the Centers for Disease Control has come out with its report on the six California children who became ill in September 2006. It’s heavy-duty reading, in part because it seems almost designed to confuse in terms of who got sick from what. Or is that because they just aren’t sure what happened?

And they state, once again, that a boy got sick after consuming raw milk at a friend’s house. Wasn’t that the story of Lauren Herzog, a girl?

Also, the timing of this release and its admonition to avoid raw milk is intriguing. The events are nearly two years old, yet here it is being released on the eve of hearings and debate in California over AB 1735 and the newly proposed SB 201. Normally, I'd say I'm being at least a bit paranoid, but having seen the lengths to which both state and federal authorities are willing to go to so as to frighten people and derail Organic Pastures, I have to say such conjecture seems eminently reasonable.


Reader Comments (68)

How did Mr. Marler know (as he reported on this blog), before it was released, that the CDC report was about to be released? Did Mr. Marler have any input into the research concerning, the writing of, or the release timing of the CDC report?
June 12, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Bemis
I am all knowing. I am an evil genius out to crush raw cow and goat milk? I have a question, why drink breast milk from an animal not of your species? Goodness, how natural is that? Why does not Dairy A sell raw human milk - would not that be a bit more magical?
June 12, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBill Marler
I didn’t find the report confusing at all. Here’s what the report states:

Five of six patients reported they had consumed brand A raw dairy products in the week before their illness onset; the sixth patient denied drinking brand A raw milk, although his family routinely purchased it. Among the five patients who consumed brand A dairy products, two consumed raw whole milk, two consumed raw skim milk, and one consumed raw chocolate-flavored colostrum. Four of the five patients routinely drank raw milk from dairy A. One patient was exposed to brand A dairy product only once; he was served raw chocolate colostrum as a snack when visiting a friend. No other food item was commonly consumed by all six patients. No other illness was reported among household members who consumed brand A dairy products.

Here’s the same information broken down by bullets:

• 6 children/teens became ill (ages 6-18); four were male and 2 were female

• 5 of the 6 reported consuming brand A raw dairy products in the week before the onset of their illness; the 1 patient (male) who reported that he didn’t consume brand A dairy products the week before becoming ill, does routinely consume brand A raw dairy products (just not the week before becoming ill).

• Of the five patients who reported they consumed brand A raw dairy the week before becoming ill:

o 2 consumed raw whole milk (1 male, 1 female)
o 2 consumed raw skim milk (1 male, 1 female). We know this was Lauren Herzog and Chris Martin because it was discussed on this blog.
o 1 consumed raw chocolate-flavored colostrum (he was visiting a friends house and this was the first time he was consumed a brand A raw dairy product) (male)
o 4 of these 5 patients routinely drank raw milk from dairy A (we don’t know which 1 of the 5 didn’t routinely drink brand A raw dairy—maybe this was Lauren Herzog).

• No other food item was commonly consumed by all six patients

• No illnesses were reported among household members who also consumed brand A dairy products the week before the children/teens became ill. However, we don’t know how many household members also consumed brand A raw dairy products.
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercurious
How did David Gumpert know details about the content of the Florez bill (SB 201) more than a week before it was introduced?
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commenteranother reader
"How did David Gumpert know details about the content of the Florez bill (SB 201) more than a week before it was introduced? "

Maybe if you ask him, he will tell you.

"Milk samples from these production dates were not available for testing."

Wasn't a sample from one of the homes refused by authorities? They had a chance to example the sample and they refused it.

"Fifty-six product samples from several lots with code dates of September 17, 2006, or later were retrieved from retails stores and dairy A and were tested for aerobic microflora, total coliform, fecal coliform, and E. coli O157:H7. The outbreak strain of E. coli O157:H7 was not found in any product samples."

Is this saying that samples taken from the "Dairy A" products in the stores shown no E-Coli?

"CDFA and CDPH conducted an initial inspection and environmental investigation of the milk plant and dairy on September 26. E. coli O157:H7 was not isolated from any of four environmental samples. Samples from three heifers yielded E. coli O157:H7, but the PFGE and MLVA patterns of these E. coli O157:H7 isolates differed from the outbreak pattern."

Still no matching E-Coli.

"the exact mode of milk contamination in this outbreak was not determined."

And it was not determined because....?

"To reduce the risk for E. coli O157 and other infections, consumers should not drink raw milk or raw milk products."

Why don't they "suggest" this same mantra with hamburger, poultry, etc?


June 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSylvia
It used to be, this blog was a place where questions were raised, viewpoints exchanged, and everyone's understanding was enhanced. There's been a degeneration recently, and a lot of it has to do with cute answers/non-answers. It's an honest question, Bill - how do you find out what CDC is planning to publish? I don't do this work full-time, and if there is some avenue in the agency's process which permits advance views, or even invites inputs, I'd like to know, since they are pretty inscrutable in my experience. I just want to improve my own skills, if you're willing to share. My other questions simply follow on. Will you answer?
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Bemis
"It used to be, this blog was a place where questions were raised, viewpoints exchanged, and everyone's understanding was enhanced. There's been a degeneration recently, and a lot of it has to do with cute answers/non-answers."

Thank you, Steve. I couldn't agree more. The #1 reason I've been avoiding reading this blog the last few weeks.

Mr. Marler, answer the question. If you don't want to participate, then go away.
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterfrustrated reader
I for one cancelled my local subscription to a paper owned by Ogden Newspapers, routinely printing AP articles I was disgusted with, that had nothing to do with raw milk. I just don't believe anything they write any more. I can get all my news online now. NYT permits you to read several stories a day without subscribing. BBC is free, and has more accurate news about the U.S. than any U.S. paper because they're allowed to create a negative spin on it. (For this reason DH can't stand them and I love them).

Regarding David knowing about the bill as opposed to Bill knowing about the CDC report, I have this to say. Being in the know regarding a bill for congress is quite a bit different than being in the know about a governmental report by an agency that is supposed to report unbiased data to the public. It is quite a bit different. The former is permissable by law. The latter - a lawyer trying to "own" people by sueing them, knowing about governmental records in advance of their being public, smells of a rat in the grain bin.

Gwen

June 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterelderberryjam
It is important to note that the conclusion stated as fact:

"• No other food item was commonly consumed by all six patients"

should certainly be footnoted. When the Health Dept distributes questionnaires in these kinds of illnesses, there is a short list of foods - have you recently consumed raw milk, deli meats etc. If they get a hit on that short list, they stop looking.

So what that really means is "No other food item from our short list of usual suspect foods was commonly consumed by all six patients."

June 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermarlis
Sylvia has some good points. The CDC is relying on CDFA and CDPH to get its facts right. Unfortunately, many of our government agencies are so broken and poorly funded that this investigation wasn't as thorough as it could have been. Added to that was the pressure of a concurrent outbreak of E. coli in spinach. Thus the CDC has simply compounded the errors and omissions of the state agencies, leading to inconclusive and possibly incorrect results.

We need better funding for public health in this country.
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKirsten
Steve, didn't mean to avoid the question. I had no input into either the CA report or the CDC report. If I had, I would have pointed out the "she" instead of "he". I was at a food safety conference a month or so ago (I speak out about food safety issue as you know - off to London and Wales - see, www.marlerblog.com) and there was a session on raw milk. I simply overheard on of the speakers saying that the CDC was publishing on the CA report. No conspiracy - sorry.
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBill Marler
Bill - I never alleged a conspiracy, contrary to your gratuitous suggestion. I simply asked an obvious question. As it turns out, it appears there was an informal basis for your having the information. Thanks for answering the question.
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Bemis
Kirsten,

I think that is a bit of a reach and on the other hand of that, this inconclusive data could go in the other direction as well. It doesn't show me that it was NOT dairy A.
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commentera reader
Sylvia, again, you point out things and go off on these "woulda shouldas" and gloss over the facts. We could say that space aliens came and wiped out the evidence and it would be the same as what you are doing. I do admire your persistance though.
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commentera reader
Steve, you are FAR too gentle...

Mr.Marler, are you saying that "a month or so ago" a conversation you casually overheard a part of at a conference gave the specific date of release of the CDC report, enabling you to tell us to look for it on the very day it came out? Are you saying that of the hours and hours of conversations that probably went on at that conference you just happened to be at the right place at the right time to hear that info, and that you made note of the fact that not only was the report soon to come out but the exact day had already been decided and you made note of that day?

You really do think we are stupid, don't you?

Bob Hayles
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBob Hayles
You really do think we are stupid, don't you?

Bob Hayles

Not We Bob - YOU
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBill Marler
"Not We Bob - YOU"

The mudslinging! This is why is blog has gone to h*ll!
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterfrustrated reader
why not just ignore it or post something that changes the subject...
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered Commenteranother reader
"Not We Bob - YOU"

Good shot Marler...no one else has to prove you are a typical shyster bottomfeeding pond scum. You do it so well yourself.

Bob Hayles
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBob Hayles
reader:

Yes, inconclusive data can go either way. Wouldn't it be better if the official had accepted the offer of the OP milk sample from one of the families as cited in a past post on this blog and tested it for E. coli? It would have yielded one more important piece of information as to whether an OP product actually consumed by a victim during the outbreak period was really contaminated. Instead the report resorts to saying that there weren't any samples available from the production dates in question.

Then there is the question of the sixth patient who "denied" drinking any OP milk. This would indicate there are only 5 cases related to OP unless the person forgot or is lying. If he is telling the truth, where did the matching E. coli come from?

Then the trivial factual error regarding the gender of at least one of the six cases.

Lastly there is the circular assertion that although there was no evidence of E. coli contamination, they cannot find the means by which the milk was contaminated. This isn't a conclusion - it's a presupposition.

There's really no doubt in which direction the CDC wanted to head on this - the party line.
June 13, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKirsten
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