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Sep032008

Anti-SB 201 Lobbying Under Way; Good-Bye to Kids' Goats; Behind Organic Milk Shelf Life

Officials of the California Department of Food and Agriculture have already begun whispering sweet little nothings into the governor’s ear about the dangers of SB 201. The Fresno Bee reports that the governor’s office has expressed reservations, based on CDFA opposition.

That means it’s going to be up to the public to keep the matter public. Mary Blair McMorran, in her comment on my previous post, has it right—it’s harder for these officials and their big-name allies to pull their dark-side shenanigans if consumers are watching and monitoring and expressing themselves. “All the Marlers in the world don't stand a chance against freedom of choice, and a citizenry prepared to fight for it. California has to stand up and fight. The only way they'll lose this is if they let someone else fight for them.”

There’s one other hopeful sign: If the governor were to veto SB 201, the odds of an override, by two-thirds majorities in the legislature, would appear feasible based on the fact that nearly all the legislators are on record as being in favor of the legislation.

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The CDFA apparently got its way with that little educational farm project I reported on recently, without having to fire a shot. The directors at the ranch caved quickly, reports Robin Countrman-Velk. “The Board of Directors knew all milk products were pasteurized (including that fed to goat kids) but chose to ignore this fact and continually accuse me of ‘selling’ raw milk… The ‘fear mongering’ worked… so sad that Truth has no place in politics! It is very sad that the ‘Bad Guys’ have won here and the children and families have lost. Our program is being shut down and all of our animals displaced. I have raised these animals from birth or actually been there to deliver them. It is like losing my own child.”

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One of the arguments made by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and public health officials is that raw milk and pasteurized milk have the same nutritional value. Now there’s a report in the current issue of  Scientific American examining why it is that organic milk lasts so much longer than ordinary milk (both pasteurized) that effectively questions that notion. In a brief item, a professor of animal nutrition at Pennsylvania State University says the reason has nothing to do with milk being organic, but rather the fact that most organic milk is ultrapasteurized—heated to 280 degrees for two to four seconds, versus 160 degrees for 15 seconds for most standard pasteurized milk—because it usually travels longer distances than regular milk to get to market. “Pasteurization does not kill all the bacteria, just enough so that you do not get a stomachache,” says the professor. “UHT, on the other hand, wipes out everything.” In addition, “UHT destroys some of the milk’s vitamin content—not a significant amount—and affects some of its proteins, rendering milk unusable for cheese.”

Raw milk doesn’t even get the good professor’s consideration, though I don’t think his response would be a surprise. Unfortunately, I can’t link to the article, since Scientific American is only available by purchasing the entire issue.

Reader Comments (25)

UHT pasteurization makes the product usable for 45-60 days. Yummm.
September 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Bemis
UHT pasteurization makes the product usable for 45-60 days. Yummm.
September 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Bemis
Lactose Intolerance is abbreviated " LI ".

How appropriate given that Lactose Intolerance only exists with pasteurized milk.

Raw milk drinkers do not suffer from LI.....

Its funny how the truth emerges through the simpliest things...like the "Big LI" about Pasteurized milk and human physiology.

When people realize the raw milk truth, "the LIes" really hurt those that thought they had something wrong with them, when all along it was a "big LI " and blame game to cover up pasteurization deficiencies.

Mother Nature has it all so right!

Mark McAfee
Founder OPDC
September 3, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermark mcafee
I'll be sending more letters to arnie...and others.

Dairy products that last 40-60 days? yuck! I've not been able to find out why on the sides of the UHT cream cartons it states you cannot freeze it, does anyone know why?
September 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSylvia
The last pint of UP goat milk I bought had about an inch of sludge in the bottom of it. I never bought any, ever again. Don't know what the sludge was, or how it got there, but it was pretty disgusting.

When I put fresh whole goat milk in my hot coffee, oil beads up on top. I find that both fascinating and yummy.

Gwen
September 4, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterelderberryjam
High heat during the UHT process can cause Maillard browning, a chemical reaction between an amino acid and a reducing sugar similar to caramelization, which would explain the distinct odor and flavor of the milk.

The UHT process is used also with, fruit juices, cream, yogurt, wine, soups, stews and cosmetics.

Gwen, your experience with the goat’s milk producing oil beads on the top of your coffee may have something to do with its naturally homogenized nature.
What is UP goat’s milk?

Ken Conrad
September 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKen Conrad
What happened at the Kiddin’ Korral hurts everyone because it reinforces the notion held by so many bureaucrats that their opinions trump our rights. It is simply not credible that the CDFA is ignorant of the fact that, according to their own rules, permitting and pasteurization are irrelevant at the Kiddin’ Korral since the goats’ owners are drinking their own milk. In this case the CDFA invented a regulation, then enforced it. Those are the acts of a rogue agency and, in my view, heads should roll. Legal avenues for redress and to stop such governmental abuses are very appropriate.

If the CDFA had wanted to do something useful they might have visited the place and suggested that the goat kids would be healthier if fed their mother’s milk without pasteurizing it.
September 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterDave Milano
” In addition, “UHT destroys some of the milk’s vitamin content—not a significant amount—and affects some of its proteins, rendering milk unusable for cheese.”



Cheesemaking essentially follows the same recipe as a calf would when it drinks the milk.Natural rennet in the calf's stomach creates the curd.If UHT milk is unfit for making cheese,its not hard to see that it would be unfit for our digestive systems.
September 4, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermiguel
Those from the old country would say "if it doesn't sprout or rot , it is unfit" . It took me a while to understand what they meant.
September 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterA real farmer
Go to http://gov.ca.gov/site/contact-governor to E-Mail Governor Swarzeneggar. And call 1-916-445-2841 and tell one of his staff your opinion. Sure the legislature may override the veto, but it's best not to underestimate the power of the milk industry lobby.
September 4, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterrevgen
Dear Governor Swarzeneggar:
Please sign SB201 which would add safeguards to the supply of raw milk by requiring new pathogen testing (twice weekly for e coli 0157:H7 and monthly for the four principal pathogens) and HACCP (hazard analysis critical control point) procedures. These safeguards would be an alternate to, and superior to, the present law's requirement for coliform testing.

Opposition to SB201 by CDFA was essentially non-existent during the hearings by Senator Florez in April, and since then as well. The measure has been unanimously approved by the Ag and Appropriations Committees, and by nearly-unanimous votes in the legislature. Late-breaking opposition by CDFA is without credibility for lack of participation in the process, and to the extent that it relies solely on political favors is subversive of the legislative process. Opposition by opportunistic trial lawyers is simply typical of opportunistic trial lawyers. Arguments that the law is not specific enough are hollow, since CDFA will implement the statute's provisions by regulation.

This measure has broad and deep public support both within and outside California, and if enacted will provide important leadership on a national level for state-of-the-art measures to protect consumers of raw milk whose principal source is through large retail channels.
September 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Bemis
To answer Sylvia....

....if you freeze UHT milk it becomes a Sym Tec llike ( C-4 ) explosive and goes off like a small nuclear bomb in your gut.

Since the FDA always seems to accuse me of making drugs ( foods that cure disease ) I thought I would accuse them of making "gut bombs".

God knows, FDA approved drugs kill tens of thousands every year and they hardly take notice.

Hence Lactose Intolerance. The Big LI.

Arnold needs to hear us loud and clear.

Please sign SB 201 "The Fresh Raw Milk Act of 2008".

The number is 916-445-2841...tell them that Arnold grew up on raw milk.

Mark McAfee
Founder OPDC
September 4, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermark mcafee
Thanks for pointing that out , Mark! My daughter got to tour Germany and Austria with a music tour and she was raving about how good the food was over there! 1- they won't use corn syrup, and 2- they have the freedom to make real cheese and dairy products. So look how well Arnold turned out! He needs to admit he was raised on raw! BTW - her complexion was so healthy while she was over there!
September 4, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterA real farmer
UP: Ultra Pasteurized

It is on everything organic that is milk at Krogers, which is why I don't buy organic milk at Ohio grocery stores. Plain old pasteurized by a local processor is a better choice so far as I am concerned, than anything UP. I quite buying store brands a year ago. I think we have a couple of goats we're about ready to start milking again, and I am looking forward to it. They kidded in July, and they are full even with 2 m/o twins on them. My husband says there must be some good food out there for them. Our pasture is pretty overgrown, still. It is kind of wierd, as dry as its been to have goats with such big udders. I'm thinking chevre and a nice wheel of cheddar mid-winter...for ourselves of course.

Gwen
September 5, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterelderberryjam
“Pasteurization does not kill all the bacteria, just enough so that you do not get a stomachache,” says the professor. At least not right away. Regular pasteurization doesn't kill Mycobacteria, a cause of Crohns disease.

Does anyone notice the oily mouth feel UHT milk has?
September 5, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterkirsten
Gwen wrote,
"The last pint of UP (ultra pasteurized) goat milk I bought had about an inch of sludge in the bottom of it. I never bought any, ever again. Don't know what the sludge was, or how it got there, but it was pretty disgusting."

The sludge you mentioned is a result of pasteurization. It is a mixture of dead bacteria, dirt, and pus. Commercial producers must use a process called Bactofugation to clarify the milk, which also extends its shelf life. I wonder how many people would drink processed milk without this step? Pretty gross.

There is no substitute for clean, high quality raw milk.
September 5, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRuth Ann Foster
UP is yuck....

The sludge you saw ( and I hope you did not taste ) in the UP milk has been an identified issue at Organic Valley for years.

We used to be paid a premium if we kept our LPC and PC counts low so that this was a reduced problem.

The sludge is caused by "cold loving" so called Pychotrophic bacteria ( hope I spelled that right ) that survive UHT or UP heat treatment. One tough family of bacteria.

UP is a completely un natural food preservation system ( borders on sterilized but not quite )and our bodies are very confused when we eat it....in fact 35% of humans in the USA either puke or pass gas or can not do either and just plain painfully blow up as a direct result. The shift to soy, rice and almond milk was fueled by this GI issue.

OV then did the un imaginable and then started producing estrogen rich, phytic acid creating soy milk.

It is no wonder so many Amishmen ship there raw milk on mid night Mooooshine trucks to New York and Boston and their shipments to OV are dropping every month.

Mark McAfee
Founder OPDC
September 5, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermark mcafee
I continue to learn a lot from this blog. I'd like to say ignorance can be bliss....But that can be detrimental to one’s health. In this case I see where the gastric symptoms came from in the past. I believe that I am a person with average knowledge of the food chain and I am finding out that I’ve only known of the bare minimum. I had no idea that our food was distorted in so many ways.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/j465366w627l042l/

http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?SEQ_NO_115=190789

I knew there was a reason why I butchered my own chickens.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GPTB_enUS290US290&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Psychrotrophic+bacteria&spell=1
September 5, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSylvia
"I am a person with average knowledge of the food chain and I am finding out that I’ve only known of the bare minimum. "

Sylvia, you are the best! Keep exploring, not only the raw milk perspective, but also the scientist's work and perspective. There IS common ground, and a way to prevent illnesses (not all, but some of them) IMHO. The arrogance of Weston Price in the face of facts is discouraging, in an environment where scientists are reaching out to work on this issue. There could be common ground, but real scientists seek the truth. Weston Price seeks to promote an agenda, and is not interested in the truth or common ground.
September 6, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSybil
Sybil,

What are you tlaking about?
September 6, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercurious
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