A reader emailed me questioning how I could suggest farmers partake of civil disobedience. “It strikes me as somewhat irresponsible to be recommending farmers break the law to make a point about rights. Easy for you to recommend that since it doesn’t affect your income….”
I’d like to answer that, but before I do, I think an explanation of how I got to where I am is in order. Even though I’ve extolled civil disobedience as an option at different times, I’ve mostly encouraged farmers and consumers to work through the system to gain acceptance for raw milk. Heck, I’ve even come down against farmers I thought might be cutting corners that could lead to illnesses, and against the Weston A. Price Foundation for being overly defensive in denying outbreaks.
My sense was that the overall regulatory and legislative situation could be evolving toward a quid pro quo–more emphasis on safety and safety-related education in exchange for expanding access to raw milk. As Lykke notes, we even had an involved debate and discussion on this blog between lawyers Steve Bemis and Bill Marler on key components of legislation and regulations that would make safe raw milk available from farms. I expressed concerns at that time about whether Marler’s heart was really in the right place–his crowing on the Wisconsin veto suggests I was more correct than I ever would have wished on that one.
Nowhere was the new thinking, if that is what it was, more in evidence than in the legislative effort to allow Grade A dairies to sell raw milk directly from the farm in Wisconsin. As the legislation made its way through the process, it was adjusted ever more to the liking of regulators (names of customers required), public health people (all kinds of testing), even product liability lawyers (by removing a prohibition on liability suits).
The legislation passed by lopsided majorities in both legislative bodies, and the governor said in late April that he was inclined toward signing it. But then the dairy lobby got involved. We don’t know what was said and who promised what to whom, but we don’t have to let our imaginations run very wild to come up with plausible scenarios.
Even if the dairy industry’s excuse–illnesses from raw milk threaten the “brand” of all milk–had even the slightest tinge of truth, would that be enough reason to ban the competition? Can Ford get Toyota’s cars taken off the market because of fears that Toyota’s safety problems threaten the “brand” of all cars? Of course not.
Yet that’s exactly what the dairy industry argued, and succeeded in obtaining.
Mark Kastel of the Cornucopia Institute described the situation well: “The dairy industry, from lobbyists representing Kraft and Dean Foods on down, circled the wagons and killed this bill. Their smokescreen, about health concerns and harming the industry, represented a diversion from an obvious agenda to crush a rapidly growing competitive threat — a product and marketing alternative that rewarded farmers and cut out profits for middlemen and processors.”
The lawyers out there can tell you the exact terminology for such offenses, but I think a few of the terms are “collusion” and “restraint of trade”. Illegal under various antitrust laws in this country for any variety of reasons, one of them being that they often involve side deals whereby politicians and regulators are granted favors to look the other way. I don’t know the exact deal here, but there had to be a deal for the governor to sabotage the raw milk industry. Forget about what the public health people were saying. They object to lemonade stands, and Doyle knew that going in, when he said he was ready to sign the legislation. After all, he has regulators who have been crying about raw milk safety concerns for years.
So here we have the governor of the second-largest dairy state vetoing legislation to protect the market share of one industry over a smaller competing industry (raw milk). Not to protect the state’s economy, since the raw milk industry generates cash that stays in the state and doesn’t get siphoned off by Big Ag processors.
I’m all for the best possible safety standards. I’m totally against corrupt practices like collusion and restraint of trade. In fact, those practices make me sicker than any raw milk ever could. Our soldiers aren’t fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq to protect politicians and regulators so they can line their pockets or arrange cushy jobs in industry for protecting the dairy industry. They aren’t fighting so these creeps can deprive our families of nutritious fresh milk.
Wisconsin Sen. Glenn Grothman said it very well:
“I think (Doyle’s decision) was a combination of the agribusiness industry who, whatever they say, were afraid of losing a little market share, and the public health establishment that is instinctively afraid of freedom of any sort, I have a tremendous amount of sympathy for all the people with stomach ailments, autism and other ailments who are going to have to try to obtain a product illegally because their government doesn’t believe in freedom.”
Remember, the issue of protecting the dairy industry came up a few weeks ago in the Massachusetts battle. Why are regulators and politicians in such widely divergent places like Massachusetts and Wisconsin suddenly so concerned about protecting the dairy industry? Let’s just say that because fearmongering about safety has only driven more people to demand raw milk, now they’re bringing the big guns. If fear mongering doesn’t work, just go to out and out corruption. I think Lykke is correct: we have entered a new phase of this struggle.
Here’s what Martin Luther King had to say about unjust laws:”One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that ‘an unjust law is no law at all’.”
There are a number of unjust laws here. There’s the Wisconsin law the prohibits nearly all sales of unpasteurized milk. There’s the federal law that prohibits interstate transport of raw milk. There are numerous other state laws that similarly prohibit consumer access to raw milk. There is Massachusetts, which is using the police powers of the state to enforce laws that don’t exist to further limit already limited access to raw milk.
Some states, Michigan in particular, have dealt with prohibitions by sanctioning herdshares, which have sprung up by the dozens, and that seems to be working well. But a Wisconsin resident who joins a Michigan herdshare is technically violating federal law to go fetch milk. The fact that the federal government has chosen not to currently enforce that prohibition because it knows it can’t enforce it is irrelevant. Or maybe that’s the government’s version of civil disobedience. The law is on the books and could be enforced at any time, but isn’t because the regulators fear an uprising if they did.
So getting back to the comment at the opening of this post, I was referring to all the laws that effectively limit access to raw milk, affecting consumers and farmers alike. They are being ignored to a significant extent by both the government and the people. But they are being enforced on a highly selective basis for deterrent value.
Depending on when and where the government decides to enforce the laws, there could be financial penalties, even jail penalties. Consumers will have to become involved, and possibly risk arrest. The Civil Rights movement required both white and black deaths. That’s what civil disobedience is about. The more people willing to make the stand, though, the more difficult it is for the overseers to deprive us of our food. When you think of it in those terms–regulators engaging in collusion and restraint of trade, and using the police powers of the state to enforce their private deals so as to prevent us from ingesting fresh wholesome milk, it’s not a complicated decision.
If that makes me “a radical,” as Gary Cox puts it, then I’d say, “That was easy.”
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Cars circling for parking at the Norwich farmers market.I was at my favorite farmers market today in Norwich, VT, and it was more crowded than I’ve ever seen it…and the season hasn’t truly begun. The main parking lots filled up and people had to park in far-off fields. Demand for local foods is skyrocketing. Raw milk is definitely a proxy issue.
Even President Obama has taken the pin out of the Cancer and Health Grenade with his Blue Ribbon panel of cancer health experts that say that pesticides on and in our foods, chemicals, irradiation, FDA drugs and other toxins are poisoning us all and killing a half million Americans a year from cancer alone ( 1.5 million are diagnosed with cancer each year ).
"The panel urges you ( Obama ) most strongly to use the power of your office to remove the carcinogens and other toxins from our food, water, and air that needlessly increase healthcare costs, cripple our nation’s productivity, and devastate American lives."
http://www.naturalnews.com/028765_environmental_chemicals_cancer.html
Guess who objected to the Presidential Panel of distinguished scientists….the fricken Pharma, cancer research and chemical industry. Sickness wanting bastards all!!
GREED GREED GREED that commeth before the needs of the People is a sick reality but it is our reality.
It is coming to an end. The Moms are awakening and they are dollar voting the Creeps and their Corporate Handlers out….they will be unemployed soon.
Our farmers markets last night and this morning arround the state hit record sales everywhere. There is no hiding from the truth when it hits home in your GUT or your childs immune system. The mother lions are fed up. All it takes is a little Google time and the truth is that close.
Lykke, it is sad for us all to see your efforts. We know that you were sent by the Government or Pharma to be a distruptor. What is truly sad is that you have not helped to create a learning environment where the government could learn a little something. Right now the FDA is so doggedly corrupt that they can not learn or they will loose their jobs.
The FDA will not join the conversation or even converse on a radio talk show. It is too bad that you can not be a surrogate for them and teach them something about prevention and help us join together.
In a meeting I had at OPDC with some high level FDA milk people including Dr. Nega Beru many years ago , they said….."this visit it is not official and we will deny that we were ever here. Raw Milk information and recieving information about raw milk is against FDA policy". This is a near quote from Dr. Beru of the FDA. How can there ever be learning of any kind with this kind of official policy in effect.
The "mother lions" do not care one bit about the FDA and are incited to buy more raw milk when raw milk is bashed by the FDA. The FDA must remember that safe FDA drugs have made their kids very sick and killed thousands of them….I guess the FDA is screwed either way….kind of a natural justice. The FDA has lost any kind of respect or relevance with the citizens of America. That is why there is a counter intuitive and reverse relatiionship between raw milk sales and FDA admonishment against its consumption. When the FDA bashes raw milk….sales go up every time.
It is a new reality Dr. Beru. The FDA must fear the Mother Lions upon their awakening. They know an unjust law when it harms their cubs. Mother Lions make their own laws and eat things that are stupid enough to get in their way.
Mark
The question is this….How do we do it well. The presidential cancer panel that also said it well is now being ignorred by the media and the critical FDA and EPA damning information will die in a file. How to get action from words and research done well said is the trick.
We need senators with some balls to hold hearings and people must show up to expose the FDA, EPA, the Military, pharma-medical complex and Industry, big ag and others for their environmental and food destruction.
Money….it is missing…therefore…. these words must be used to educate and awaken the grass roots. Make more movies and use this research to back it up!!!!!
The Presidential Cancer Panel and its 240 pages of some of the best and most comprehenisive government supported research that damns the FDA, EPA and Industry and Pharma, Big Ag and even our military and medical industry is one hell of a tool.
The PCP report did not use the word Organic but it recommended that foods be produced with out all the things banned in the USDA organic standards. It said Organic in so many words.
This report has real value …but only if it is used. You Teach… You Teach… You Teach!!
I say to the President…this is the Root of the Best "CHANGE" that you were sent to DC to perform.
Government agencies and their policies support corporations that are poisoing America and killing us…..do not ignor this report. Use it!!! Our tax dollars paid dearly for it.
Mark
Thank you.
We got the same position statement from the Dept of Ag in Colorado; an outbreak attributed to raw milk will hurt the entire milk industry. The health dept declined to come to the table and discuss what 60 raw milk producers are doing in their state. Public Health Guardians? Feh!
I agree with Mark about broadcasting Presidential Cancer Panel’s findings – let it go viral on the internet.
As well as this blog.
Thank you, thank you!
-Blair
there is little or no hope of changing that with reason logic and debate. it’s just not going to happen. what is needed is a revolution. while it can be peaceful the longer it is delayed the less likely it is to be non-violent.
america is no more, the spirit is gone. we are a welfare state and over 50% pay no income taxes but benefit from the entilement state they have voted for themselves.
go along with the masses at your own peril. i realize that 94.4 percent of those reading davids blog are not in this group but surely you are starting to see the merry-go-round the system provides for you to pass your time. most here still think this is a free country. you are wrong.
we are controlled by corporate interests for the benefit of corporate interests. slowly, one by one, you are waking up and seeing the truth. david is right in that you must resist and even break the law (actually they are not laws they are statutes and codes.)
meanwhile the entitlement state is barreling down a sucide path and cannot be stopped. (thank goodness!) it will crash and burn in the next few years if not this year.. but be aware, governments boot on our necks will at first get heavier and then heavier still before they collapse. government now is only interested in the survival of government. lucky for us we only need to stay out of the way and wait till they disintagrate.
as that happens we will need to comeout from our underground economy and stand ready to insist a republic by and for the people is re-established. that will be the really hard part and with so many dependant on the "free" stuff gov’t gives them will not be peaceful.
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Instructions/0.5CommercialLaw.htm
Are we breaking the law when we exchange goods and services in a private transaction with another?
"The foundation of the Uniform Commercial Code (U.C.C.) is Commercial Law. The foundation of Commercial Law is based upon certain universal, eternally just, valid, moral precepts and truths. The basis of Commercial Law is the Law of Exodus (i.e. The 10 Commandments) of the Old Testament and Judaic (Mosaic) Orthodox Hebrew Commercial law. The Laws of Commerce have remained unchanged for at least six thousand years and form the basis of western civilization, if not all nations. This law of commerce therefore applies universally throughout the world. Real Commercial Law is non-judicial and is prior and superior to, the basis of, and cannot be set aside or overruled by the statutes of any government, legislature, governmental or quasi-governmental agencies, courts, judges, and law enforcement agencies, which are under an inherent obligation to uphold said Commercial Law. "
"In the Laws of Commerce, the eternal and unchanging principle of the law are:
1. A workman is worthy of his hire. . Legal maxim: It is against equity for freemen not to have the free disposal of their own property."
2. All are equal under the law (Gods Law-Moral and Natural Law). Legal maxims: No one is above the law.; Commerce, by the law of nations, ought to be common, and not to be converted into a monopoly and the private gain of a few.
5. A matter must be expressed to be resolved. Legal maxim: He who fails to assert his rights has none.
6. An unrebutted affidavit stands as truth in commerce. . Legal maxim: He who does not deny, admits.
Although many people seem to be convinced that we are going against the law when we exchange goods between each other without first obtaining permission from the proper authorities,I am not convinced.In fact we are upholding the law which is " prior and superior to, the basis of, and cannot be set aside or overruled by the statutes of any government, legislature, governmental or quasi-governmental agencies, courts, judges, and law enforcement agencies, which are under an inherent obligation to uphold said Commercial Law. "
book mark these sites and read then daily as they are fast moving and chock full of truth.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
http://theburningplatform.com/
http://www.chrismartenson.com/
follow the links these sites provide there is a lot of truth out here on the web but it is NOT provided by the main stream media (MSM) these 3 sites are run by some of the best americans we have left and all three individuals will admit to until recent years being part of the silent majority.
we can no longer afford to be a silent majority we must stand up and fight for what we know is right and just. if you’re not willing to do that then i really don’t understand why you’re even reading this blog in the first place.
if you can’t find the time to understand what is really unfolding in todays current events you will deserve what you get. there are many other truthful, honest and brutally real web sites out there if you know of any please post them i can and will post more if it seems like there is any interest here at all. the 3 posted above are among the best and while i’ve had to let davids blog go for awhile i’ve been missing it and am hoping to read and participate here again.
Oh yes, they are….our soldiers just don’t know it. That’s why they’re over there in the first place. Oh, maybe not for the Dairy Industry specifically, but for Industry’s profits in general. Surely you know that War always lines the pockets of various forms of Industry, chemical and medical and many others…and politicians, of course?
On a more positive note: "Pastured Dairy may Prevent Heart Attacks". Note it says PASTURED, not pasteurized:
http://jds.fass.org/cgi/reprint/82/10/2146.pdf
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/05/pastured-dairy-may-prevent-heart.html
i dont even bother to read lykkes comments anymore,i skimmed before, because i know he /she /it is not to be believed and its so obviously dishonest and so obvious to me is posing as being interested in learning more but is obvious is a govt /big ag[same thing ],,plant. so i agree just ignore it.
i also agree we need more movies and books. reading the omnivores delimna ,a gift from a friend,and then in defense of food and then seeing food inc which i couldnt wait to see after seeing that great ad of the cow with the barcode, and the future of food, changed my life,
i thought i was being healthy before eating frozen organic vegetables and non organic ravioli,i cant believe how much ive changed my eating and food buying habits in just the past year .now i get practically everything from farmers markets and farmers, and finally found raw milk, ill never go back to drinking pasteurized milk again.after finding raw milk i read the raw milk revolution loved it great book david . and the untold story of milk too.
i cant wait for the milk men movie and any other movies about raw milk and local food.anyone know when theyll be out? i tell everyone about raw milk and farmers markets .
i agree its useless to go along with the fda etc its just big corporations theyre only interested in money and power not in the earth or the well being of animals.or even the health of humans let alone animals .
"we are going against the law when we exchange goods between each other without first obtaining permission from the proper authorities"
I didn’t know that permission was a requirement?
Educating the public is the key. Not jsut about raw dairy, also about the processed foods (phoods). Teach on how they are processed, show how the confined animals are treated/kept, what they are eating-break it down to what it truly is. Teach how pasteurized milk is really treated- it isn’t milk straight from the cows through the pasteurizing tubes into bottles-teach what happens to it before it is dumped into the jugs. People have no clue how the foods are really processed. A wild boar causing the spinach "outbreak" was such a blatant cover up.
http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2010/ecoli_o145/index.html Seems fairly quiet in the media. It is amazing that the media can dig up trash on all the women Tiger slept with in a matter of hours but they can’t dig up important news like food contamination. So much for reporting news.
http://www.examiner.com/x-18425-LA-County-Nonpartisan-Examiner~y2010m5d22-CAFR-US-agencies-have-billions-trillions-in-investments-while-crying-budget-deficits
Not something that one finds aired by MSM news that has been pasteurized and even ultrapasteurized for many many years. Seeking and finding the truth these days is a full time job.
I live in CT and don’t need to be civilly disobedient (yet), So as a small token of solidarity with those who do, I’ve decided to increase my raw milk consumption by another glass a day! (I figure I’m going to need the strength as the struggle gets more intense.)
can you say "public cartel?" that’s what we have here.
Drink up and teach up…..this is the most non-violent, health giving and peace making thing we can do.
Mark
Heh. They’re shaking in their boots about what we’re plotting next. We’re unpredictable ya know? And we have networks, conviction, courage, and wallets.
I can see the uniform argument across states; (it will hurt the milk industry). They think all communities think alike, they don’t know or love their own community, so they take orders from the feds. They know that we know and love our community, so imagine how timid, how weak they are.
All they have is 8-hour employees. Some of them pick up raw milk after work. FDA doesn’t stand a chance. Even if we lose, we win because they look like owned corporate lackeys every time they win. We will outlast them. Raw milk reveals their folly.
-Blair
Dare to do things worthy of imprisonment if you mean to be of consequence. ~Juvenal
Laws control the lesser man. Right conduct controls the greater one. ~Chinese Proverb
Never do anything against conscience even if the state demands it. ~Albert Einstein
No radical change on the plane of history is possible without crime. ~Hermann Keyserling
When leaders act contrary to conscience, we must act contrary to leaders. ~Veterans Fast for Life
It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. ~Voltaire
If… the machine of government… is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. ~Henry David Thoreau, On the Duty of Civil Disobediance, 1849
You’re not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it. ~Malcolm X
Human history begins with man’s act of disobedience which is at the very same time the beginning of his freedom and development of his reason. ~Erich Fromm, Psychoanalysis and Religion
Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn’t. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may. ~Mark Twain
Integrity has no need of rules. ~Albert Camus
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. ~Louis D. Brandeis
Laws are only words written on paper, words that change on society’s whim and are interpreted differently daily by politicians, lawyers, judges, and policemen. Anyone who believes that all laws should always be obeyed would have made a fine slave catcher. Anyone who believes that all laws are applied equally, despite race, religion, or economic status, is a fool. ~John J. Miller, And Hope to Die
Disobedience, the rarest and most courageous of the virtues, is seldom distinguished from neglect, the laziest and commonest of the vices. ~George Bernard Shaw, Maxims for Revolutionists
Every actual state is corrupt. Good men must not obey laws too well. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson
We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." ~Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from Birmingham Jail," Why We Can’t Wait, 1963
We cannot, by total reliance on law, escape the duty to judge right and wrong…. There are good laws and there are occasionally bad laws, and it conforms to the highest traditions of a free society to offer resistance to bad laws, and to disobey them. ~Alexander Bickel
It is necessary to distinguish between the virtue and the vice of obedience. ~Lemuel K. Washburn, Is The Bible Worth Reading And Other Essays, 1911
I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not so desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. ~Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience, 1849
As long as the world shall last there will be wrongs, and if no man objected and no man rebelled, those wrongs would last forever. ~Clarence Darrow
It is not what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice tell me I ought to do. ~Edmund Burke, Second Speech on Conciliation, 1775
I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. ~Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Ordinarily, a person leaving a courtroom with a conviction behind him would wear a somber face. But I left with a smile. I knew that I was a convicted criminal, but I was proud of my crime. ~Martin Luther King, Jr., March 22, 1956
If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. ~Bishop Desmond Tutu
It is not a man’s duty, as a matter of course, to devote himself to the eradication of any, even the most enormous wrong; he may still properly have other concerns to engage him; but it is his duty, at least, to wash his hands of it, and, if he gives it no thought longer, not to give it practically his support. If I devote myself to other pursuits and contemplations, I must first see, at least, that I do not pursue them sitting upon another man’s shoulders. ~Henry David Thoreau, On the Duty of Civil Disobedience
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carthage-MO/Marlees-Creamery/182352822752#!/notes/marlees-creamery/challenges-of-the-family-farm/10150193958030646
This farm in MO just got an ultimatum from their processor: stop selling raw milk or we’ll quit buying from you. Of course, this ultimatum didn’t go out to their suppliers who bottle and sell pasteurized milk.
here’s a talk everyone needs to hear/watch. it’s pretty long and it’ll either worry you or set you on a path to peace of mind. if it worries you then you need to look into it futher and understand what is happening.
no one who cares to eat well or produce food should be afraid of this information.
everyone needs to get past denial
Dear Marlees Creamery,
OPDC was faced with exactly the same choice in 2002 when Organic Valley told us to stop raw milk sales or be evicted from the CROPP Coop. They gave us 60 days to think about it.
On day 60, we told Organic Valley to take their contract and go buy a source for their UHT dead milk someplace else. Then….we were left with not enough consumers to buy all of our raw milk. It felt very lonely….but we reached out to our consumers and we produced lots of truly raw cheddar cheese and that bridged the span along with expanding our markets and doing more Farmers Markets. This was my come to Jesus moment….
I was forced to ask my self the question of my life. Who did I serve. Was it the pasteurizer and a creamery ( organic or not ) or the consumer who wanted delicious raw milk????
I could not turn away from the consumers…they loved us and they looked me in the eye and gave me direction and full payment. I could outreach and get more of them….they were educatable. They were developable. They were real.
We had a few tough months….but this was the desparation that planted and watered seeds of perspiration and inspiration.
Good and great things rarely if ever come from a comfortable seat. Nothing is certain except for your efforts and education of consumers with the full force of truth of mother nature and "failure not being an option" standing behind you.
Mark
http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2010/05/20/2905304.htm
http://www.youtube.com/user/huskavarna#g/c/61BEE4D596AF34B7
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/skip-milk-5-reasons-why.html
This doctor has broken from the herd…wow!!
Mark
"there is currently no strong evidence that organics bring nutrition-related health benefits, a new research review finds."
"The current review, Dangour and his colleagues point out, did not look for studies on the possible health benefits of reduced exposure to those substances. Nor did it address the environmental impact of organic food production."
The title is misleading. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist nor anyone with a fancy degree to know that added chemicals to foods have a great potential to be harmful, especially over long term consumption.
Education; Keep it short and to the point so they can better absorb the knowledge, facts and repetition are the keys.
The farmers market here in Sacramento has gotten much busier than it was just 2-3 yrs ago. several little ones are popping up in the out laying communities. The more people learn about how the foods are processed et al, the more will utilize farmers markets/ road side stands. There are too many health problems in this country.
It seems that now I have been vilified.
Civil disobedience is now in order . . . . if the feds come after another farm we must all be ready to FIGHT and send them packing. Sorry, raw milk consumption is a food right and the feds have no business in regulating the local food movement be it pastured eggs, pastured meat, produce, pastured dairy, cheese, et al. . . .
I have been very proud of David’s last two posts. I don’t ever think the USDA, FDA or State bureaucrats will ever see our point . . . . we must fight them with increasing the number of raw milk drinkers (healthful marketing is the key) and utilizing local food producers and advocates.
Best wishes to all and keep up the fight!!!. . . . Violet J. Willis – Shepherd
Im sorry you have gone AWOL. Your perspectives have been valuable for keeping this blog alive and thriving. Thank you for your contributions.
You and cp need to weigh in here with your drivel. Keep showing your true colors, your "agenda" with your obviously faked concern for food safety. Keep showing your elitist attitude that we all must be protected by the nanny state. Keep demonstrating the mindset of the typical government regulator who is willing, even anxious, to keep the unconstitutionally oppressive boot of government on the necks of a supposedly free citizenry.
lykke, what you say is insignificant…it has no meaning. The attitude it demonstrates though IS important. It helps keep us awake to the agenda of the nanny state…it keeps us aware of just what the war is about…government control, not food safety. BTW, one other reason for your continuing to serve the aforementioned role…
Its the little worth you have. Without it you are doing nothing but wasting oxygen.
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