The State Fingers a Missouri Cheesemaker with Rawesome Role: Have the Goons Got Their Scapegoat? Bad Dreams Come True on U.S. Trains and Buses
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 at 07:05PM 
Cheesemaking at Morningland Dairy in Missouri. Gradually, the various follow-up assault roles of The State agencies involved in the raid on Rawesome Foods are becoming clear.
A few days ago, we learned that the Los Angeles Department of Building and Safety was assigned to harass Rawesome about building safety codes.
Now we learn that the California Department of Food and Agriculture has been assigned to do lab tests of all the food stolen, er, seized, in the June 30 raid. That information came to light a via a press release issued by CDFA saying its lab "detected" listeria monocytogenes in two varieties of raw-milk cheese from a Missouri producer, Morningland Dairy.
The dairy, which has been selling raw cheeses nationally for thirty years, has never had an illness from its cheeses, its general manager, Denise Dixon, told me. Indeed, the FDA, in a separate press release, in which it said the Morningland cheese was taken from Rawesome, states that no one has become ill from the supposedly contaminated cheese. (The FDA censors reviewing the draft press release must have missed that statement.)
The matter of listeria monocytogenes in foods has become a contentious issue in the raw milk world, especially in New York state, where agriculture officials have made numerous findings of listeria monocytogenes in raw milk over the last five years, without any individuals becoming ill. Within the scientific community,there has been much debate over the last twenty years over whether trace amounts of listeria monocytogenes really are any kind of health threat, since the bacteria are considered pervasive, and illnesses quite rare.
In the meantime, tiny Morningland Dairy, with six employees, has essentially become caught up in the dragnet growing out of the assault on Rawesome Foods by State agents with guns drawn. Now that they carried out such a huge hit on a small private organization, the agencies are under pressure to show "results." So the city of Los Angeles started with health code violations and moved on to building violations; California is devoting huge resources to examining all the food and finally, to the agents' collective relief, I am sure, has a "bingo" in finding a few listeria cells in Morningland cheese. And Morningland has been pressured to recall all its cheese from the first of this year, and prohibited by Missouri officials (presumably recruited by FDA) from shipping any cheese--in effect, shut down. In the authoritarians' view, just a minor casualty on the road to sterile food.
Now, as I understand it, the huge DeCoster egg operation that has sickened 1,200 people with contaminated eggs since May, continues operations.
As I also understand it, the members of Rawesome each signed a statement saying they not only accept that there might be pathogens in their foods, they welcome it.
Moreover, can we even believe the test results that might come out of such a clearly corrupt process? Is that what Regulator was trying to say when he/she posted the FDA's press release following my previous post?
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As many of us are aware, the ever-harsher crackdown on nutrient-dense foods is a harbinger of a general move toward tyranny. Unfortunately, it seems nearly inevitable that The State's authoritarian fist will become ever more visible to ever more people.
Which brings me to trains and buses. When certain things happen in this country, I sometimes think of scenes from Nazi-controlled Europe, where members of my family perished, and try to tell myself that I'm being alarmist. Things could never get that bad in the U.S.
There's one scene from the book I wrote about my family's experiences, "Inge: A Girl's Journey Through Nazi Europe", that came to mind yesterday. The scene is a train about to leave Toulouse in Nazi-ruled France, which my teenage aunt, Inge Joseph, had just boarded with four of her friends in 1942, seeking to escape to Switzerland.
"Finally, we boarded the train. All five of us were able to sit in one compartment. Our plan was to take turns walking the corridor every hour in order to see whether passengers were being checked for 'cartes d'identites' (identification cards), which we did not carry. As foreigners, we would have required special traveling permission, but this was seldom granted, and especially not if the destination was the Swiss border! Our plan in the event of an identity check was to hide in the toilet of an already-checked car..."
Then there's this story on the front page of yesterday's New York Times.
"The Lake Shore Limited runs between Chicago and New York City without crossing the Canadian border. But when it stops at Amtrak stations in western New York State, armed Border Patrol agents routinely board the train, question passengers about their citizenship and take away noncitizens who cannot produce satisfactory immigration papers. 'Are you a U.S. citizen?' agents asked one recent morning, moving through a Rochester-bound train full of dozing passengers at a station outside Buffalo. 'What country were you born in?'
"When the answer came back, 'the U.S.,' they moved on. But Ruth Fernandez, 60, a naturalized citizen born in Ecuador, was asked for identification. And though she was only traveling home to New York City from her sister’s in Ohio, she had made sure to carry her American passport. On earlier trips, she said, agents had photographed her, and taken away a nervous Hispanic man.
"He was one of hundreds of passengers taken to detention each year from domestic trains and buses along the nation’s northern border. The little-publicized transportation checks are the result of the Border Patrol’s growth since 9/11...
" 'I was actually woken up with a flashlight in my face,' recalled Mike Santomauro, 27, a law student who encountered the patrol in April, at 2 a.m. on a train in Rochester. Across the aisle, he said, six agents grilled a student with a computer who had only an electronic version of his immigration documents. Through the window, Mr. Santomauro said, he could see three black passengers, standing with arms raised beside a Border Patrol van..."
When I look at the photo accompanying the New York Times article, I wonder, when will they begin asking and searching more. Maybe inquiring into religious beliefs, matching names against lists according to political leanings, inspecting the food we are carrying. Less and less do I feel as if I am being alarmist.
Reader Comments (27)
it''s not a blip, even those few remaining americans who have kept their values and morals intact over these past few decades of credit fueled insanity the pain will be grueling and thee system will target them and abuse them severely as the last available productive americans to tax and regulate. that's what the machine we built / allowed to be built... does... who'da thunk!
with luck we get a step down / level off / step down etc... decline so other basicly good and capable individuals can adapt and gov't can be dismantled civily. but don't count on your local officials to do the right thing. so far they are doing exactly the opposite of the right thing.
change is coming, as chris martensen sez "the next 20 years will be completely different then the last 20". debt collapse creates a self-reinforcing cycle of deflation. on an individual level deflation may be a good thing... cheaper stuff and all. but deflation absolutely destroys economies that are built on growth and inflation.
so what happens? ha! got me.... i look around and see 9 1/2 out of 10 people in denial. rightly so i imagine as they really have no skills to help themselves. we've been on a 100 year experiment and most everyone settled into the lab just fine, manual labor is for losers. knowing how to do/fix/create... survive by ones own hand, on ones own merits is forgotten. our "service" economy will take care of it. right? ... right?
what will gov't do? to fix it? ... nothing, they can't because they are and will be completely unable to see it till it's way,way (one more) way too late.
what can gov't do? make it worse, harder. maybe they can keep the masses sedated by paying forever unemployment benefits. and food stamps and housing and a spattering of ditch digging make work projects. but once american highways are all repaved (with borrowed money) (for now, cause that's my next point)
as debt collapses borrowing becomes impossible so endless borrowing to "stimulate" the economy will not only fail but will become impossible if not already so. then the gov't has to print money. which the fed has been doing all along trying to replace money lost down the growing (and hungry) debt blackhole.
debt will collapse because there are many times more debt then can ever be repaid. everyone here should understand the exponential function. double a penny everyday and in a month you'll have a million dollars (not a million pennies) a day or three before the end of that month you only had $100,000. as days pass the amount goes balistic on a graph the line appears to turn straight up. debt will collapse and in the very near future.
as the fed prints money to both replace money lost to bad debt and to support a large and growing segment of the population they will still fail. things like houses will lose most of their value while food and clothes will soar in price. local gov'ts unable to cope with lost property tax and sales tax and usuery fees will simply crumble. uncle sam will probably print money for them too. but that is not a viable solution longterm.
nothing being done is a viable solution and nothing will be done because it is politically un-exceptable to even thing of dealing with a real depresion/contraction. wealth is only produced by making something, america has shipped our factories to asia and our jobs with them. i guess no one thought of the implications of globalism/free trade/wage competition. wo in america (these days) wants to work in a factory for the same pay as some chinese guy who thinks $20 a day is huge!
after ww1 the world heaped this kind of debt on germany (well, actually a lot less debt then the world carries today), their result was to take the most productive people in the world and make them go completely insane. nazi germany was at least partly hoisted to power be the ex-middleclass of germany brainwashed into thinking they could recapture that past.
while it's too early to see how bad it might get and nobody seems too actually look to understand what is unfolding i would encourage everyone here to learn all you can and make some plans to cope with it. all of you with cows, chickens, the ability to grow food will be in great demand. make sure you survive to be there when you're really needed. the system will fight to survive and it's death throws will be violent and unpredictable. it's gonna happen so do we emerge as a republic or something far darker?
I find it fascinating that CDFA does not take monthly samples of OPDC 60 day raw cheeses...so why did they take samples of the Rawesome raw cheese to inspect and test? If it was the law to test for listeria in raw cheese they would certainly take OPDC cheese samples for testing.....they never do. I have yet to see any routine testing of our raw cheeses....sounds like there are grounds for objection to the CDFA testing of the raw cheese at Rawesome, especially because raw cheese can be sold any where in the USA and is not subject to interstate raw milk blockade or CFR 1240.61 regs. This is a head scratcher or worse...some one needs to object on authority grounds. This would appear to be selective prosecution and harrassment.
Hugh....your thesis on the de-evolution of America is something I think of often. I feel deep in my heart that America has outsourced itself and depreciated itself....all jobs sent overseas and now America is on its knees.
It was mentioned in a recent post that Americans now fear real work....I see this all the time. Fear of sweat and fear of toil....fear of productivity if it comes from physical labor. Close the borders and we will starve from unpicked crops and lay on dirty hotel sheets.
Americans will soon starve or change....just like all other life forms on earth.
Advice to all....connect to something green and real...like soil and food. In this 100 year experiment gone wildly bad....these things matter more than ever.
Mark
Industry News - AM
Recall from E. coli O26 illnesses reignites non-O157 debate
By Rita Jane Gabbett on 9/1/2010
PURAC America Inc
Cargill’s weekend recall of 8,500 pounds of ground beef over concerns about a connection between E. coli O26 and three illnesses in two states was the first recall directly relating a beef product to illnesses traced to a non-O157:H7 STEC, reigniting the debate over testing for and regulating these pathogens.
Less than two weeks ago the American Meat Institute sent a letter to Agriculture Tom Vilsack opposing declaring these pathogens adulterants, pointing out, among other things, that no reported outbreak in the United States had been directly linked to beef products. That is no longer the case.
(See AMI opposes making non-O157:H7 STECS adulterants on Meatingplace, Aug. 18, 2010.)
By Monday afternoon Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.), chairwoman of the FDA and Agriculture Appropriations Subcommittee, pointed to Cargill’s weekend recall as justification for her E. coli Traceability and Eradication Act, which would require USDA to regulate all strains of toxin-producing E. coli.
“It is time for USDA to acknowledge the scientific evidence and classify all toxin-producing E. coli strains as an adulterant that should be made subject to testing,” she said in a statement. “This would close a significant gap in our food safety system and help minimize additional foodborne illnesses.”
DeLauro isn’t the only one turning up the pressure on USDA. Bill Marler, a Seattle-based food safety attorney and advocate, renewed his call for stronger regulation of non-O157 STECs.
"The USDA and beef industry know well that there are at least six additional strains of Shiga toxin-producing E. coli: O45, O111, O121, O145, O103 and O26 that are highly dangerous to humans and should not exist in food," Marler said in his own Food Safety News online news and opinion service.
Former USDA Undersecretary for Food Safety Richard Raymond also repeated his call for increased awareness and regulation. “Secretary Vilsack and the president are going to have to decide if this is a big enough recall to act on,” Raymond told Meatingplace. “Do we have to wait for another Jack-in-the-Box?” he added in a reference to the massive E. coli O157:H7 outbreak in 1993 that led to that strain being declared an adulterant.
Not as easy as it seems
There are, however, a number of barriers to effectively testing for and regulating non-O157 STECs.
Experts have said only about 10 percent of laboratories are currently capable of testing for non-O157 STECs. ======>>>> That is because these pathogens lack a single distinctive phenotypic characteristic in common that could be reliably tested through some selective medium, biochemical test or other procedure. <<<<<=====
USDA is still working to complete validation of laboratory methods for discerning which of six non-O157 STECs (O26, O103, O111, O121, O45, and O145) are present in samples so it can start sampling for them later this year, Kenneth Petersen, assistant administrator of the Office of Field Operations for USDA’s Food Safety and Inspection Service, said earlier this month at the National Meat Association’s summer conference.
At the time, he added, however, “Sampling and testing does not mean regulating them. No decision has been made on regulating them.”
Violet, do you know who was the first historical philosopher to advocate for socialized healthcare and a social safety net to help the disadvantaged?
It wasn't Karl Marx, Frederich Engels, or any 19th or 20th century socialist. He pre-dated all of those figures.
It was Thomas Paine, the American revolutionary. And Paine was an outspoken opponent of the U.S. constitution, because he (like Patrick Henry) recognized it as a major power grab by the likes of Alexander Hamilton and other wealthy mercantile interests.
I am not railing against America per se. I am railing against the myths and delusions which many Americans have about our country, our constitution, and about the so-called "free-market system."
Is anyone paying attention to what he said? We've been discussing the food safety crap for the past three years. Is it safe, is it not safe? Is it safe, is it not safe? Is this going to matter when the economy collapses? In the last posting David had, manta.com was mentioned. We need to find out who are enemies are. This will decide how we fight them
EXCELLENT JOB HUGH
Listeria is found in most dairy plant processing enviroments. Usually it can be found in the floor drains, but it would have no way of getting into the product unless there was cross-contamination from the floor or from a dairy plant workers, or unless the raw milk was contaminated to begin with. Listeria is a poor competitor with most other organisms, but can build up tolerance to chlorine and other sanitizers. It is not uncommon to find listeria in chlorine footbaths at the entrance to dairy plants.
Staph is also ubiqitous, but it is a toxigenic organism, not pathogenic. When it reaches certain concentrations (from my understanding, more than 1 million/mL) it produces an entero-toxin which is heat stable (able to survive pastuerization), and which will persist in aged raw milk cheese even if the organisms themselves have expired.
Thus, with staph, the cheesemaker needs to know what the PEAK concentration of Staph is, rather than what it currently is, to know whether the cheese is safe. Staph is not really a problem in fluid milk, because it isn't cultured like cheese, so the Staph will never have a chance to reach the population levels neccessary to create the entero-toxin. Staph stops reproducing once the pH reaches about 5.0, or when it runs out of food, so like listeria, it is a poor competitor. As always, its important to use a viable starter culture to exclude pathogens.
That being said, I don't know what would have happened here. These all sound like hard low moisture cheeses, so they should be pretty safe.
You have a tremendous knowledge base where political philosophy is concerned, but you don't seem to have an understanding of the political reality in which we live.
Thomas Paine, Alexander Hamilton, et. al. were freemasonic agents of the Rothschild banking cartel. Their directive was to take the U.S. from overt control by the British Crown to covert control by the Rothschild banking syndicate and British Crown, who along with the Rothschilds are part owners of the Bank of England (who are the owners of the Federal Reserve). Incidentally, the Bank of England is headquartered in the autonomous City of London along with the BAR Association (of which all of our legal heroes belong), and is controlled, some say still controlled, by the secret society the Knights Templar.
Political philosophy is a red herring. It doesn't mean anything because it all leads back to Rothschild control. ALL of the major players are Rothschild agents. Friend and foe. The Rothschilds funded the Bolshevik revolution because Czar Nicolas II wouldn't play ball with their globalist agenda. It was not a populist revolution. Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin all took money and their marching orders from the Rothschilds. The Rothschilds (Bank of ENGLAND) funded Hitler's rise to power (as did Prescott Bush, father of George H.W. and grandfather of George W.) AND also funded England's war against Hitler. And look at the economic situation we're in, as described by Hugh Betcha. All because of the Federal Reserve, the fiat dollar (Rothschild banking cartel!), and their agents in the U.S. government. This was all planned since the inception of our country. It's all a fraud.
You are absolutely right about one thing - the attachment we have to the U.S. Constitution. It's a fraud, too. It was meant to give us the illusion of freedom so the bankers could continue raping us under our noses, and we wouldn't notice or protest against our own enslavement. We're still subjects of the British Crown, through their financial (debt) control and through their ownership of our corporate government.
If you're not familiar with Marti Oakley, I suggest you listen to her. Actually, I suggest that of everyone. She's one of the few people in the country who have a clue as to what's really going on in the political front.
radio show/archives: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/marti-oakley
blog: http://ppjg.wordpress.com/
1. The FDA revolving door whores.
2. The Corps that embrace CAFO systems...FOOD, Inc.
3. The unethical and immoral CEO's at those corps that take millions per year as they rape animals, environments and people of health.
4. Corporations that sell to the CAFO systems "Monsanto, ADM and the like"
5. Attorneys that make mountains of money from kids sickened by these systems yet blame others for the sickeness.
6. Anti-biotic resistance and the policies and politicians that protect the big pharma.
7. The silence of the minions that fail to rise up and protest. ( this being the worst because it shows the unconscious, scared cowardly lemmings that 99% of Americans have become ).
Mark
I'm surprised you are looking for some sort of regulatory reason to explain why CDFA tested Morningland Dairy cheese, when it doesn't test OPDC cheese. There is none, because the Rawesome situation isn't a regulatory matter. This is beyond "selective prosecution and harassment." For lack of a better term, this is a political gangbang on Rawesome. The various agencies are each waiting their turn in line, trying to figure out their particular pleasure. Los Angeles city agencies have had their turns. Now CDFA had its turn. The L.A. District Attorney is still waiting. FDA is still waiting. FBI and the U.S. Justice Department are in line. The State is sending a message as loudly and clearly as it possibly can, much like some African governments send political messages through organized rape: Don't mess with private distribution of nutrient-dense food, or we'll do the same to you as we're doing to Rawesome. I'd say the main good news is we still have some vestiges of a viable legal system, so there's an opportunity here for some hot-shot lawyers who appreciate the outrage taking place to take on a case that could challenge the government juggernaut.
David
"A warrior of light always keeps his heart free of any feelings of hatred. When he goes into battle, he remembers what Christ said: 'Love your enemies.' And he obeys. But he knows that the act of forgiveness does not mean that he must accept everything; a warrior cannot bow his head, for if he did he would lose sight of the horizon of his dreams. He accepts that his opponents are there to test his valour, his persistence, his ability to make decisions. They force him to fight for his dreams. It is the experience of battle that strengthens the warrior of light." From Paulo Coelho's Manual of the Warrior of Light
Yes, I still read David's blog and keep up...and Mark,I agree with #7, BUT, even though I have not been personally confronted with the regulatory facists that would keep me from my farmer/nutrient dense foods, I would become part of the 'resistance' should they come for me/my farmer. That's one problem with this 'war'...it isn't concentrated...but scattered about the land...so most of us 'minions' aren't even aware,leave alone feel affected by its insidious consequences. We just have to do what Weston Price said, TEACH, TEACH, TEACH! I do, but very few listen.
Alyssa
Perhaps this is where we diverge. I do not believe that some secret society (such as free masons or the knights templar) controls everything from behind the scenes. There are certainly unspoken forces which influence the way that power dynamics within our society are structured and operate -- forces which most people are so accustomed to that they do not see them. The first one I can think of is the nuclear family, which is a strictly 20th century phenomenon, yet is held as some kind of "traditional value" by so many. Another one that comes to mind is how labor and employment are structured, and the way that schooling of children is structured (it is designed to socialize them into their class role as workers in a modern industrial society).
The structures of power in our society are more dynamic, organic, and sometimes conflicting, than the kind of conspiracy theory you suggest.
I would agree with you that political philosophy does not tell us the whole story. That is why we need to understand history. But while you seem to focus on the history of the rich and powerful, I would prefer to understand the history of the struggles of the common people. You may already be familiar with the book, but Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" is a good place to start on that topic.
Having read Zinn's book many years ago I believe that his writings are nothing more than "fairy tales" and are tailored to those who believe in marxist left wing political philosophy and the attempt at the rewriting of American History. I had an inkling but now I know where you get your political beliefs.
You can find the pros and cons about this book on Wikipedia here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_History_of_the_United_States
I tend to agree with Handlin's critique of this book.
Cheers,
Violet
www.kilbyridgefarmmaine.blogspot.com
So well said....an alphabet soup ( CDFA, FDA, FBI, DHS, NCIMS ) gangbang of political opportunity to get Aajonus Vanderplantz and stop his teaching and preaching of alternative thought and nutrition.
Rumor has it that Rawesome is shut down....can someone confirm this?
This is not like Aajonus or James Stewart. They would not do this unless they had something bigger up their sleeve or they are setting an Raw Food Ambush of Sorts.
Rawesome is very much like the Black-Pathers in the 1960s....they will disappear and re-appear...they have the people and the safe houses and they are all cash and 100% un-conventional guerilla food fighters. The operate from garages and the backs of trucks and use cell phones, word of mouth, codes and twiiter....the more hush-hush and speak-easy they become the bigger and stronger they get.
By the way....OPDC established long ago an 8,000 member email list of OPDC Raw Milk Freedom Fighters that will come to the rescue of raw milk in CA. This has been demonstrated several times in Sacramento. CDFA and the FDA knows not to screw with us and our moms, media friends or our scientists and doctors. We had that figuered out long ago.
I actually think that we are beginning to get a little mutual respect going on here in CA.
Mark
And who can take seriously someone who makes such chauvanistic and nationalistic claims as this?
"It would be a mistake, however, to regard Zinn as merely Anti-American. Brendan Behan once observed that whoever hated America hated mankind, and hatred of mankind is the dominant tone of Zinn's book..."
There we go again. A dissenting voice is branded as "anti-American." Its the classic accusation of reactionary stalwarts defending the status quo and the powers that be against those with the intellectual capacity to challenge their dogmas.
Anti-American. Yes, and anti-human too... Seriously, Violet? You believe this crap?
I guess all of us raw-milkies are anti-American too, aren't we? And anti-food safety, anti-health, and anti-human, they'd have you believe... because we dare to dissent from the powers that be.
What about the ones you don't see? The ones who work in secret?
What about Cathy Anderson and other spies for the state and federal governments who watch and listen to us, what we say and what we do to report back to their Head Honchos, of the in-fighting and that we are not organized? And that we cannot see the forest for the trees?
The feds have spent billions on infiltrators on blogs and websites, just to observe the sheeple, and they plan their attack accordingly.
Case in point: we have learned that government is a private corporation owned and funded by foreign bankers for their own gain to take down one the greatest nations in history. Which brings me to the obvious - If all of the state departments of agriculture are private corporations and the FTCLDF is also a private corporation that is working with them, where does this leave us producers, consumers, and advocates of not only raw milk but raw foods in general?
The establishment is in it's deaththrows and is desperate to keep it's power. We are beginning to figure things out. And they will do anything, and I mean anything, to keep it. And this is where conspiracy theories come from. Something so bizarre, so far-fetched, so unbelievable, so hard to comprehend, that the people can't understand to be true. Hitler did this in Nazi Germany. The bigger the lie the easier it is to sell.
When any person sees or hears something that needs to be exposed, he is called a whistle blower. He tells this far-fetched story that people cannot understand. Because they can't understand it, they call the whistle blower a nut, a kook, a fool (choose your own description). The people turn on the whistle blower, no matter what his credibilities are. This is how even the smallest lie or illusion can have serious impact on the public.
Thank you...
#8. The Unthinking, Immoral, Unethical "Robotic Spies" ( some police officers, some regulators, the wanna-do-gooders and other dunces ) that work for government and corporations that report back the activities of free people that yearn for immune systems that work and the freedom to access and consume whole unadulterated foods.
Mark
Just because you don't believe it to be true doesn't make it any less untrue.
"There exists in this country a plot to enslave every man woman and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot." - President John F. Kennedy - 7 days before he was assassinated
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. ...It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated now and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past centuries.” - David Rockefeller speech at the annual Bilderberg Meeting, 1991
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." - Woodrow Wilson after signing the Federal Reserve Act
“It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” - Henry Ford
JFK speech where he acknowledges the existence of Secret Societies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces&feature=player_embedded
Ron Paul admits that the CIA controls the government & military:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dECSYm5bSM
If we don't have a real understanding of how the world works - and this is how the world works, whether or not you want to believe it - we won't be able to effect the change we desire. We can put a band aid on our problems, but the real tyrants will still be there, waiting to enslave us again when we're not looking.
I'm curious about these words from you, Bill:
"The first one I can think of is the nuclear family, which is a strictly 20th century phenomenon, yet is held as some kind of "traditional value" by so many."
How did people live in the 19th century if not in a nuclear family?
That is your interpretation and not mine. TPTB have been duping us for a long, long time with regards to food and health. It is very American to not only produce but consume raw milk and any other nutrient dense foods. Everyday people are waking up to this fact and I see them come into my farm store everyday thanking me for growing and providing access to healthy foods.
As a young woman I was duped into thinking that writers like Zinn were right. Only through living a life full of diverse experiences have I realized over the last ten years or so that they were so wrong. We both agree that being able to choose the foods that we wish to consume should be a right. We just disagree politically ~ that is all. All I am saying is to keep an open mind as you might believe differently 10 - 15 years from now.
The raw milk movement as well as the local food movement is composed of not only left and liberal thinkers. There are many of us (consumers and farmers) out there who have different political views. In my remote part of the US we all seem to get along and respect each others political beliefs AND we are still able to discuss/debate these political differences and stay friends in the process:)
Kind regards,
Violet
www.kilbyridgefarmmaine.blogspot.com
When the conspiracy people leave the ranch and start talking about "Chem -Trails" and the government spraying us all...thats when this pilot really does not agree and does not follow. Ever heard of Carbon Dioxide and Ice Crystals above the freezing altitiude??? Thats what happens to Jet A fuel when it is oxidized.
I have never heard of spray equipment installed on any near bankrupt commercial airlines. They are limiting the amount of fuel on board and carry just enough water to flush the toilets muchless Chemical Spray equipment.
When conspiracy theory meets wild immagination...that is a sign of not sweating enough in the garden and losing contact with reality.
Go get dirty, drink some raw milk and touch the soil...it is very grounding.
Mark