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Sunday
Sep092007

Nearly a Year to the Day After Shutdown, the Raw Milk Inspectors Come Calling at Organic Pastures

FDA%20testing%20personal%209-25-06%20051.jpgThe sense of déjà vu was eerie. First the California Department of Food and Agriculture posted a press release on its site: It had ordered a recall of raw cream produced by Organic Pastures Dairy Co.

Then the Associated Press came out with a story, which was published by the San Jose Mercury News, one of the state’s largest newspapers. Listeria monocytogenes had been found in some of the cream, which “can cause the serious infections in children and the elderly. Healthy adults can experience symptoms including fevers, severe headaches, nausea and diarrhea.”

Associated Press is one of the largest news services in the world, yet it didn’t bother with comment from anyone at Organic Pastures (or even indicate no one could be reached).

It was September 21, 2006, when CDFA officials issued their first recall, and eventually shut down the state’s largest raw milk dairy for two weeks, after five children believed to have consumed raw milk became ill. (The photo above, from Organic Pastures, shows two federal Food and Drug Administration agents taking samples from the farm’s soil in their search for E.coli during the shutdown.) The illnesses, four of which came from a common strain of E.coli 0157:H7, were never connected definitively to bacteria at Organic Pastures.

The way Mark McAfee, Organic Pastures’ owner, explained it to me, the listeria m finding in his dairy’s cream sounded very similar to findings at several New York and Pennsylvania raw milk dairies over the last few months. “After nine days of testing a sample, they got a positive reading,” he said. He said he was told by a state lab official that the finding “was considered to be subclinical.” He said technicians “put the milk in a petrie dish and use a special broth that suppresses the growth of other bacteria to encourage the growth of the listeria. By definition, the listeria they get is an extremely low level.”

The recall order applied to 200 pints of cream sent to 45 stores, out of 300 stores that normally carry Organic Pastures products. Nearly all the cream had already been purchased, and no one has become ill, Mark told me. Similarly, in New York and Pennsylvania listeria m. cases, no one has become ill.

Mark says his dairy tests samples of all milk that leave the dairy for E.coli 0157:H7. “But we screwed up by not testing for a broader range of bacteria.”

Organic Pastures has just in the last few days purchased special equipment that “will test for all the politically significant bacteria—camphylobacter, E.coli, listeria, and salmonella…We probably should have been doing that before.”

He said the cream in question actually came from a dairy in Northern California that produces raw organic milk because, “We can’t make enough cream to satisfy our own customers.”

Mark criticized the state’s testing and announcement procedures. “This is a huge to-do about nothing because the conditions in the lab are not human conditions…They did not shut us down…Yesterday at a farmers market people were giving us high-fives because we are still selling milk.”

He added that he expects demand for raw milk to increase yet again. “Every time this happens, the people who want whole food are stirred up even more.”

Nor has he lost any of his combativeness. “We are in a place that is politically incorrect…I am in the business of producing good bacteria…But every opportunity they (government regulators) have they will stick a knife in our back.”

Reader Comments (37)

It was an eerie Labor Day weekend here in California. It was blazing hot just like last year. I couldn’t help but think about all the people drinking raw milk produced in this heat. Are they vulnerable because it is so hot? Bacteria explode in the heat. I kept wondering, “Is there going to be another outbreak?” I’m glad to hear that so far no one has become ill and I do hope it is a “testing” flaw and not a real contamination problem.

This time last year we had been in the hospital for four days. Chris had non-stop painful diarrhea and vomiting. Today was the day Chris started having pre-HUS symptoms—possible appendicitis or ulcerative colitis. This is when doctors became extremely concerned. This is the day before our lives changed for ever. Chris was diagnosed with HUS on day five.

Tomorrow it will be a year since we were told that Chris had a chance of dying simply because of ingesting a foodborne pathogen.
September 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMary McGonigle-Martin
To Mary McGonigle-Martin

I read your comment. If you spend your weekend worrying about people drinking raw milk then you need to get a life or see a shrink. Loads of things "out there" can kill you. What's a person to do; become consumed with worry and stop living?? Hardly.

The mainstream press would love to see the raw milk industry put out of business. Nothing new there. If more people used raw, unadulterated foods you can be sure there would be a lot less sickness in this country.
September 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAn amazed reader
Amazed Reader,

I read your comment to Mary's comment. I can only hope that you are a new reader to this blog and haven't been reading all of Mary McGonigle-Martin's courageous and thoughtful commentary and data-sharing of the past year. If you are unfamiliar with her unique contributions to the raw milk disussion, I suppose I can understand the flippant and hurtful tone of your comment.

But if you are a regular reader of this blog and the reader commentary, then I guess I just don't know what to say, especially when you use a pseudonym instead of your real name. I suppose supporting raw milk choices doesn't guarantee sensitivity and compassion, does it?
September 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnna
Wow, just like Anna, I am offended for Mary by that comment from "An amazed reader". I think anyone who reads here regularly knows what a unique and valuable contribution Mary has to offer the raw milk discussion. This must have been from a first-time reader. I usually just lurk and soak up the intelligent commentary here, but just wanted to pipe up on this one with my two cents.
September 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAmey
I'm adding my voice to those objecting to the offensive comments made by An amazed reader.

Amazed reader, your anonymity and rudeness may be commonplace on other blogs/forums that you visit, but here on David's blog, it's totally inappropriate. Many of the regular contributers here disagree with each other, but a baseline of civility is maintained.

You should take a cue from Amey's comment that:

"I usually just lurk and soak up the intelligent commentary here, but just wanted to pipe up on this one with my two cents."

It would've behooved you, to do just that, before verbally bashing Mary.
September 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMichael Richard
Thank you everyone! I’m deeply touched by all of your comments. Thanks for coming to my defense.

I actually think “an amazed reader” is Mark McAfee. If I’m wrong, I apologize to Mark in advance. I don’t want to make accusations that are not true.

The reason I think it is Mark is because on another blog he made a similar statement about me regarding the need for counseling. It’s a nice technique to use. It changes the focus and devalues anything I say because he paints me as emotionally unstable.

His second statement is classic Mark McAfee. If a negative statement is made about raw milk (especially his), he changes the subject to the media or the food that keeps our immune systems healthy. The only typical statement that is missing is something derogatory about our medical system.

Mark McAfee has a predictable mantra he reiterates over and over again. If this statement didn’t come from Mark then it probably came from one of his strong supporters and he/she is repeating what they always hear him say.
September 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMary McGonigle-Martin
A 747 Jumbo Jet crashes every day?

David,
Extremely well said. This raw cream thing is a non-event!!
In California CDFA does not test for pathogens in retail produced pasteurized dairy products. They do this because what you do not test for they do not want to find. Remember that pasteurization does not kill all bacteria. It just reduces their number by a measure of Logs. That means that if pasteurized dairy products were tested and feed specialized broths... all kinds of pathogens would be detected at low levels.
The bigger question is this....why is this news?
100,000 people per year ( CDC data ),that’s a 747 Jumbo Jet full of people every day die from antibiotic resistant infections and immune depression. This is news!!! A Jumbo jet crashing everyday you bet your butt that is news...but politically these deaths are excused and buried as collateral damage in the failure of the "germ theory". Health is about the strength of the immune system. Not about bugs. That is why pathogens do not make 99% of healthy people sick.
Find a sub clinical level of Listeria in some raw cream and nobody is sick and this is news??? The raw cream was not even from OPDC, it had been purchased from another organic creamery. We tested for Ecoli 0157H7 but not Listeria. This we will never do again.
The bacteria phobia in our country is beyond stupid. It is causing the sheepeople in this country to eat sterilized foods and further depress their immune systems. Pathogens can only be pathogens if the host is weak. Does anyone get that???? That is why the list of pathogens gets longer and longer. It is because we are weaker and weaker.
80 percent of the human immune system is the biodiversity of good bacteria in the gut. Raw milk is the best source of this bacteria.
It makes me sick just thinking about how politics has sucked the truth out of science and "we the sheepeople" pay the price with our lives.
The raw revolution fights on....with mother nature on our side.
My condolences to the people of North Carolina that have been insulted by the forced addition of black food dye in their raw milk.
America is lost in health darkness, will somebody please turn on the lights!!! Another Jumbo Jet full of American citizens crashed today....again.
Please, please that is the news!!
September 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMark McAfee
Just as an FYI, in light of Mary's suggestion regarding "an amazed reader": Mark McAfee requested I post the previous comment because, "It would not post when I tried." I occasionally receive such requests, and try to accommodate them.
As long as I'm on the subject, I have tried to keep this blog as open as possible for comments--not requiring passwords or email addresses, because they tend to be inhibiting...and frustrating. Several people have pointed out that discussions are remarkably civil. I agree, it's been great.
September 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Gumpert
This epidemic of state testings for listeria m. has the sticky fingerprints of a coordinated campaign all over it. It's an epidemic of testing only, obviously, since I'm aware of no illnesses surrounding any of the situations in Pennsylvania, New York, and now California.
September 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSteve Bemis
IT IS AMAZING TO ME HOW MARK MCAFEE HAS SO MANY DIFFERENCES IN HIS STORIES ABOUT HIS DAIRY AND THE PATHOGENS THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND ON HIS DAIRY. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I WILL NEVER FORGET HIS UNSYMPATHETIC RANTING ON THE NEWS. HE LOOKED LIKE A MANIAC INSTEAD OF A PERSON THAT CARED ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO DRINK HIS MILK.

I FOUND A NOTE THAT MARK MCAFEE WROTE TO A MEMBER OF WWW.MOTHERING.COM IN WHICH HE CLAIMS THAT HIS DAIRY DOES NOT TEST FOR LISTERIA AND THAT IT CAUGHT HIM THIS TIME. I FIND IT FUNNY THAT HE RANTED AND RAVED ABOUT HIS DAIRY BEING 100% PATHOGEN FREE. HOW DOES ONE MAKE THESE CLAIMS, YET NOT TEST FOR ALL OF THE DIFFRENT KINDS OF BACTERIA. HES A JOKE. AND IF THAT LETTER FROM "THE AMAZED READER" WAS HIM, IT SHOWS WHAT A HEARTLESS AND GREEDY PERSON HE IS.

IM GLAD I WAS NOT AT THE HOSPITAL WHEN HE CAME TO SHOW HIS FACE IN FRONT OF MY DAUGHTER BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT HAVE LIKED WHAT I HAD TO SAY TO HIM. HE MADE SURE TO COME FOR A VISIT WHEN I WAS NOT THERE. A VISIT THAT WAS ORCHISTRATED BY THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE HER HIS DISGUSTING PRODUCT TO DRINK.

ONE THING FOR SURE, IF HE KEEPS DOING WHAT HE IS DOING, HIS DAIRY WILL EVENTUALLY BE SHUT DOWN DUE TO HIS LACK OF CONCERN FOR NOTHING BUT FILLING HIS POCKETS AND PRETENDING THAT HE CARES ABOUT A PERSONS HEALTH.

September 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMELISSA
The test they used to select for the L. monocytogenes strain by enrichment using a specific growth inhibitor for other stains is the one that some scientists say is unreliable. I think Steve is right about an organized campaign. The results of this type of testing could simply be due to contaminated samples.
September 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterKirsten
Whether or not you care for Mark, the fact remains that there are people out there vehemently opposed to raw milk. They believe they know better than you and feel you are incapable of making your own choice. Folks may want to consider supporting http://ftcldf.org/ to try to put a stop to the harassment many of these farmers are facing.
September 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRod
ROD, I DONT THINK IT IS ABOUT ANYONE KNOWING BETTER, I THINK IT IS ABOUT PRODUCT SAFETY. THE PEOPLE THAT OPPOSE RAW MILK SHOULD HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS TO SPEAK THEIR MIND ABOUT IT AS WELL AS SUPPORTERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK THEIR MIND.

FUNNY HOW IT IS CONSIDERED HARASSMENT IF YOU ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. THERE ARE REASONS FOR NOT SUPPORTING CERTAIN THINGS. PEOPLE THAT DO NOT SUPPORT IT HAVE RIGHTS TOO.

I THINK THAT EXPLAINING THE RISKS OR SHARING AN UNPLEASANT STORY ABOUT A CERTAIN COMPANY IS GOOD INFORMATION TO PASS ALONG. I WOULDNT WANT TO BUY A PRODUCT FROM SOMEWHERE THAT HAS HAD THEIR PRODUCT TAKEN OFF THE SHELF MORE THAN ONCE AND HAS AN OWNER THAT JUST WANTS TO PASS THE BUCK OFF EVERYWHERE ELSE.

LIKE OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM....GIVE ME A BREAK. !!
September 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMELISSA
Melissa,

I never once said that folks opposed to raw milk should not be able to speak their mind. My point is as others have suggested that there is an unscrupulous agenda to discredit some of these farmers using tests that may be flawed. So, in that case, it is absolutely harassment. No one, for or against raw milk should stand for this type of dirty politics.

Unlike our healthcare system, producers are very interested in producing a safe product. Fixing the healthcare system would result in corporations making less profit and no CEO will allow that to happen.

You mention a key point, you say “I WOULDNT WANT TO BUY A PRODUCT FROM SOMEWHERE THAT HAS HAD THEIR PRODUCT TAKEN OFF THE SHELF MORE THAN ONCE AND HAS AN OWNER THAT JUST WANTS TO PASS THE BUCK OFF EVERYWHERE ELSE.” The point is you have the choice no one else is making that choice for you. It is yours and yours alone.

I totally agree with you about sharing stories. How else can we learn from the mistakes of the past? There needs to be a paradigm shift how we can help farmers produce clean, safe raw milk from just shutting them down! Are there some producers that need to be shut down? Yes!

Rod
September 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRod
Rod (Mark),

Yes, there are producers that should be shut down.! I 100% totally agree with you.
September 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMELISSA
Melissa,

If you put Mark in parentheses to allude that I am Mark McAfee I can assure you that I am not. While we may weigh about the same, I am a few inches taller.:-)
September 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRod
Recently I met a lady you should hear about. Her name is Rachel Miller. She is 94 and has never in her entire life had even one drop of pasteurized milk. She is amazingly active every day with farm chores, gardening, and sewing. She has good eyesight, hearing, and walks and talks like she is in her sixties.

Think of it! She has drank raw milk since the age of one in 1914 without one day of sickness attributed to drinking raw milk yet as she says "I drink at least two glasses a day of good milk", said with a smile and a twinkle in her eye.

Over her lifespan she has no doubt consumed thousands of gallons of raw milk coming from thousands of individual milkings from hundreds of cows. Amazing? No, as this story is
repeated throughout the Amish community and world wide in some
of the most underdeveloped countries imaginable.

Think of the government doing a study of those who drink raw milk and are over the age of 50. Do you think they would publish the results?

September 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJoel Noble
Joel…I believe this story to be true and is proof that probiotics in ones diet can be quite beneficial to ones health. She probably consumed the milk from her own family’s farm or a neighbor’s farm. I believe this is the safest way to consume raw milk. This is not from a large farm where milk is massed produced.

OP dairy is mass producing raw milk. Is this wise? Is this how nature intended raw milk to be sold and consumed? Mark McAfee is pumping out more and more milk. His business is booming. He had to go outside his farm to purchase other milk to meet the demands of his business. This is my personal opinion, but I think selling raw milk on a large scale is asking for a contamination disaster.
September 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMary McGonigle-Martin
This is my first visit to this blog, and I am very glad I've come. I just wanted to say thanks for the (mostly) civil and respectful discussion, and I look forward to reading the backlog here.
September 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMaggie
OK where is the comparison here? Im sure if you have been drinking RAW MILK since 1914, your body has an immunity to the bacteria that can make you sick.

I dont think the government posting results of people over 50 would be a fair study at all.

NEXT EXCUSE !!!
September 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMELISSA
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